{"id":93552,"date":"2023-06-12T17:40:12","date_gmt":"2023-06-12T22:40:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=93552"},"modified":"2023-06-12T17:40:12","modified_gmt":"2023-06-12T22:40:12","slug":"93552","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=93552","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/instapundit.substack.com\/p\/it-should-be-safe-to-be-unpopular?sd=pf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Going woke is simply exchanging one religion for another.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"hl\" title=\"Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren Goes Scorched Earth in Effort to Push Southern Baptists Down the Slippery Woke Slope\" href=\"https:\/\/pjmedia.com\/columns\/paula-bolyard\/2023\/06\/12\/megachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104\">MEGACHURCH PASTOR RICK WARREN GOES SCORCHED EARTH IN EFFORT TO PUSH SOUTHERN BAPTISTS DOWN THE SLIPPERY WOKE SLOPE<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Southern Baptists are meeting in New Orleans for their annual convention this week. Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren, author of the bestselling book\u00a0<em>The Purpose-Driven Life,\u00a0<\/em>is waging war with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), hoping to push the denomination to the left on the issue of female pastors.<\/p>\n<div class=\"my-4\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-300x250_4\" class=\"gpt-ad ad-250 text-center\" data-google-query-id=\"COTF8eDkvv8CFWYnswAd_wUDqg\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6177\/pjmedia\/columns\/300x250_4_0__container__\">Warren, now \u201cretired\u201d but still listed as the Founding Pastor on Saddleback Church\u2019s website, is pressuring the SBC to allow female pastors, contrary to clear biblical teaching that pastoral roles are reserved for men.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Warren has been all over Twitter, TikTok, and YouTube this past week, viciously attacking his opponents (while calling for love and reconciliation). He\u2019s become increasingly combative, calling his opponents \u201cangry fundamentalists,\u201d \u201cangry fighters,\u201d and \u201clegalist showmen.\u201d (I\u2019ll leave it up to readers to determine who\u2019s playing the role of \u201cshowman\u201d in this debate.)<\/p>\n<p>Warren also issued a veiled threat to leaders who oppose him. During a recent podcast with\u00a0<em>Christianity Today<\/em>\u00a0Editor-in-Chief Russell Moore, he warned, \u201cWe [Saddleback churches] don\u2019t need the Southern Baptist Convention. They need the 6,000 purpose-driven churches that are in the Southern Baptist Convention in our fellowship, but we don\u2019t need the Convention. It would be for the benefit of others, not for us.\u201d In other words, if he doesn\u2019t get his way on liberalizing the doctrine of the SBC, he\u2019ll take his churches and go home.<\/p>\n<p>As background, in June of last year, the SBC Credentials Committee determined that Saddleback Church was \u201cnot in friendly cooperation with the Convention,\u201d essentially\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pjmedia.com\/culture\/chris-queen\/2023\/02\/25\/southern-baptist-convention-cuts-rick-warrens-church-loose-n1673684\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">disfellowshipping the church<\/a>\u00a0for having a female \u201cteaching pastor.\u201d Southern Baptist churches are officially self-governing, but blatant violations of the Baptist Faith and Practice (BF&amp;P \u2014 the SBC\u2019s statement of faith) can be cause for removing a church from membership.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"my-4\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-300x250_5\" class=\"gpt-ad ad-250 text-center\" data-google-query-id=\"COa9kerkvv8CFfIGTAod1OUCVA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6177\/pjmedia\/columns\/300x250_5_0__container__\">The committee ruled that the megachurch \u201chas a faith and practice that does not closely identify with the Convention\u2019s adopted statement of faith, as demonstrated by the church having a female teaching pastor functioning in the office of pastor.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Saddleback is expected to appeal the ruling at the convention this week, and Warren is expected to issue an emotional plea for the group to liberalize on the issue. While he claims that his goal is not to force other churches to allow female pastors, allowing Saddleback back into the SBC would open the floodgates to other churches following his lead.<\/p>\n<p>As an aside, Warren\u2019s views on egalitarianism are less troubling than some of the other statements he\u2019s made:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/media\/FybZD21XsAAJmXQ?format=jpg&amp;name=900x900\" alt=\"Image\" \/><\/p>\n<p>A study released on Sunday by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/americanreformer.org\/2023\/06\/how-many-female-pastors-are-in-the-sbc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">American Reformer<\/a>\u00a0found that there are currently 1,844 female pastors in Southern Baptist churches \u2014 many more than previously estimated.<\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-0\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-0&amp;features=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%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1667724312189579269&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fcolumns%2Fpaula-bolyard%2F2023%2F06%2F12%2Fmegachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104&amp;sessionId=8396756a6f83066cbb9ba87e46db8a5694c9888b&amp;siteScreenName=PJMedia_com&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1667724312189579269\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>That\u2019s a problem because it conflicts with the BF&amp;P.<\/p>\n<p>Mike Law, pastor of Arlington Baptist Church in Arlington, Va., offered up an amendment to the SBC constitution that would clarify the issue, stipulating that \u201ca church [is] in friendly cooperation with the Convention\u2026 which\u2026 Does not affirm, appoint, or employ a woman as a pastor of any kind,\u201d and \u201cAffirms, appoints, or employs only men as any kind of pastor or elder as qualified by Scripture.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"my-4\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-300x250_6\" class=\"gpt-ad ad-250 text-center\" data-google-query-id=\"CKOjpezkvv8CFRfv4wcd0GgNyA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6177\/pjmedia\/columns\/300x250_6_0__container__\">He explains the need for the amendment and reviews the biblical case for the office of pastor to be limited to men here:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ratio ratio-16x9\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"mw-100\" title=\"What is a pastor?\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7OPxugl3FW8?feature=oembed\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s worth your time to watch the entire eight-minute video.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/americanreformer.org\/2023\/04\/mr-smith-goes-to-the-convention\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Megan Basham also wrote a terrific article at American Reformer<\/a>\u00a0about the challenges that Law and others who wish to maintain biblical fidelity within the SBC have faced as pressure grows to bow to the culture on female pastors and other contentious issues.<\/p>\n<p>The Executive Committee voted today to allow a vote on the amendment but doesn\u2019t seem happy about it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-1\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-1&amp;features=eyJ0ZndfdGltZWxpbmVfbGlzdCI6eyJidWNrZXQiOltdLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjpudWxsfSwidGZ3X2ZvbGxvd2VyX2NvdW50X3N1bnNldCI6eyJidWNrZXQiOnRydWUsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfdHdlZXRfZWRpdF9iYWNrZW5kIjp7ImJ1Y2tldCI6Im9uIiwidmVyc2lvbiI6bnVsbH0sInRmd19yZWZzcmNfc2Vzc2lvbiI6eyJidWNrZXQiOiJvbiIsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfZm9zbnJfc29mdF9pbnRlcnZlbnRpb25zX2VuYWJsZWQiOnsiYnVja2V0Ijoib24iLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjpudWxsfSwidGZ3X21peGVkX21lZGlhXzE1ODk3Ijp7ImJ1Y2tldCI6InRyZWF0bWVudCIsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfZXhwZXJpbWVudHNfY29va2llX2V4cGlyYXRpb24iOnsiYnVja2V0IjoxMjA5NjAwLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjpudWxsfSwidGZ3X3Nob3dfYmlyZHdhdGNoX3Bpdm90c19lbmFibGVkIjp7ImJ1Y2tldCI6Im9uIiwidmVyc2lvbiI6bnVsbH0sInRmd19kdXBsaWNhdGVfc2NyaWJlc190b19zZXR0aW5ncyI6eyJidWNrZXQiOiJvbiIsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfdXNlX3Byb2ZpbGVfaW1hZ2Vfc2hhcGVfZW5hYmxlZCI6eyJidWNrZXQiOiJvbiIsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfdmlkZW9faGxzX2R5bmFtaWNfbWFuaWZlc3RzXzE1MDgyIjp7ImJ1Y2tldCI6InRydWVfYml0cmF0ZSIsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfbGVnYWN5X3RpbWVsaW5lX3N1bnNldCI6eyJidWNrZXQiOnRydWUsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9LCJ0ZndfdHdlZXRfZWRpdF9mcm9udGVuZCI6eyJidWNrZXQiOiJvbiIsInZlcnNpb24iOm51bGx9fQ%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1668307310723338240&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fcolumns%2Fpaula-bolyard%2F2023%2F06%2F12%2Fmegachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104&amp;sessionId=8396756a6f83066cbb9ba87e46db8a5694c9888b&amp;siteScreenName=PJMedia_com&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1668307310723338240\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>The American Reformer report also found that allowing female pastors tends to trigger a slippery slope:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The American Baptist Churches USA allowed female pastors in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc-usa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Church-and-Society.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1985<\/a>\u00a0and failed to uphold discipline for churches with homosexual members in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc-usa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/2021-homosexuality.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1999<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>The ELCA ordained women in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.elca.org\/50yearsofordainedwomen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1970<\/a>\u00a0and practicing homosexual pastors in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/elca-opens-ordination-to-noncelibate-homosexuals.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2009<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>The Episcopal Church USA allowed female pastors in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210316195222\/http:\/\/www.religioustolerance.org\/femclrg3a.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1976<\/a>\u00a0and homosexual bishops in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/archive\/politics\/2003\/11\/03\/episcopalians-consecrate-first-openly-gay-bishop\/5e64c11e-346a-49d1-84d0-80e13a698cb2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2003<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>The PCUSA allowed female pastors in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Margaret_Towner\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1956<\/a>\u00a0and then openly homosexual pastors in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/presbyterian-church-usa-votes-to-allow-openly-gay-clergy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2011<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>The United Methodist Church allowed female pastors in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210609060312\/http:\/\/archives.umc.org\/interior.asp?mid=1021\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1956<\/a>, allowed for homosexual unions by failure to discipline in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.umnews.org\/en\/news\/panel-orders-schaefers-credentials-restored\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2014<\/a>, and there is currently\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wcnc.com\/article\/news\/regional\/south-carolina-methodist-church-split-regional-local\/275-c1ea6d67-86ca-41f2-bf6a-d963cfba75d8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a conservative exodus<\/a>\u00a0from the denomination that is expected to change its policy to allow homosexual ordination in 2024.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"my-4\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-300x250_7\" class=\"gpt-ad ad-250 text-center\" data-google-query-id=\"CNGA1O7kvv8CFQk8swAdbPIJDA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6177\/pjmedia\/columns\/300x250_7_0__container__\">Indeed, Saddleback, now led by Pastor Andy Wood, is <a href=\"https:\/\/protestia.com\/2023\/02\/04\/another-one-saddleback-church-promotes-and-partners-with-pro-lbgtq-ministry-embracing-the-journey\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">already partnering with a pro-LGBT organization<\/a>. Sadly, it\u2019s likely only a matter of time before Saddleback follows the culture down the road of LGBT pastors.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>At the 2022 SBC convention, Warren was allowed to address the Messengers (representatives from SBC churches). True to form, he bragged that he\u2019d trained 1.1 million pastors, more than all the seminaries put together \u2014 a fabulist claim that Gabriel Hughes<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pastor_Gabe\/status\/1539011313292173328\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Gabriel Hughes, (opens in a new tab)\">,<\/a>\u00a0associate pastor of Discipleship and Education for First Baptist Church in Lindale, Texas, called \u201cegotistical nonsense.\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pastor_Gabe\/status\/1539011313292173328\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">He tweeted<\/a>\u00a0that Warren would have to train more than 70 pastors daily, or 25,000 pastors a year, to reach his 1.1 million number. (Strangely, Hughes\u2019s account has been suspended from Twitter.)<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this year, Warren boasted that he\u2019s been more successful at baptizing than anyone in history \u2014 including the early church:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m the only pastor our people have ever known. Seventy-something percent of the church, I baptized in the 43 years that I was pastor,\u201d he said. \u201cI baptized 57,000 believers in the 43 years I\u2019ve pastored. I don\u2019t know any church that\u2019s ever done that. In Acts it says, the Lord added daily to the church. That would mean 365 a year, at minimum. One a day. Well, in the 43 years I\u2019ve pastored, we baptized five people every day for 43 years. That\u2019s unheard of.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(That\u2019s six uses of the words \u201cI\u201d or \u201cI\u2019ve\u201d if you\u2019re keeping score.)<\/p>\n<div class=\"my-4\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-300x250_8\" class=\"gpt-ad ad-250 text-center\" data-google-query-id=\"COqvtfDkvv8CFZzrlAkdzWEDJw\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6177\/pjmedia\/columns\/300x250_8_0__container__\">You may have noticed that Warren is all about the numbers \u2014 he\u2019s a pragmatist through and through, often taking his cues from the culture rather than scripture. He famously polled non-Christians before launching Saddleback to see what they wanted from a church. Unsurprisingly, he\u2019s trying to convince the SBC to alter its doctrine based on numbers rather than solid scriptural exposition.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>He\u2019s blaming the declining numbers in Southern Baptist Churches on the Convention\u2019s refusal to allow female pastors, ridiculously claiming that 50% of the church \u201cis forced to \u201csit on the bench,\u201d completely ignoring the fact that women can and do serve in ministries all over the world \u2014 just not as pastors. Never a gifted (or honest) exegete, Warren claims that the Great Commission \u2014 Jesus\u2019s command to go into all the world and preach the gospel and make disciples \u2014 is imperiled unless women are allowed to stand in SBC pulpits.<\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-2\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-2&amp;features=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%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1659325878738853888&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fcolumns%2Fpaula-bolyard%2F2023%2F06%2F12%2Fmegachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104&amp;sessionId=8396756a6f83066cbb9ba87e46db8a5694c9888b&amp;siteScreenName=PJMedia_com&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1659325878738853888\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>How does reserving the office of pastor to men prevent women from sharing the gospel and making disciples? Obviously, it doesn\u2019t. Warren is smart enough to know that the former doesn\u2019t preclude the latter, but he\u2019s gaslighting, muddying the waters, hoping enough Messengers fall for his ruse. His arguments have largely invoked straw men, and he\u2019s been called out continually on social media for misrepresenting people and doctrinal stances. Here\u2019s but one example of Warren being fact-checked for attributing something to former SBC President Adrian Rogers that he never said.<\/p>\n<div class=\"my-4\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-300x250_9\" class=\"gpt-ad ad-250 text-center\" data-google-query-id=\"CML1kvLkvv8CFbEKTAodDPcELQ\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6177\/pjmedia\/columns\/300x250_9_0__container__\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1702413\" src=\"https:\/\/pjmedia.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/db48f83c-0cb7-4755-8ae8-92228305ee6d-730x603.png\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 730px) 100vw, 730px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pjmedia.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/db48f83c-0cb7-4755-8ae8-92228305ee6d-730x603.png 730w, https:\/\/pjmedia.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/db48f83c-0cb7-4755-8ae8-92228305ee6d-1110x918.png 1110w, https:\/\/pjmedia.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/db48f83c-0cb7-4755-8ae8-92228305ee6d.png 1125w\" alt=\"\" width=\"730\" height=\"603\" \/><\/p>\n<p>He also received pushback for claiming that the SBC\u2019s biblical fidelity resulted in a huge drop in membership when, in fact, the drop can most likely be attributed to an effort to purge inactive members from the membership rolls of local churches.<\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-3\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-3&amp;features=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%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1666833583099502594&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fcolumns%2Fpaula-bolyard%2F2023%2F06%2F12%2Fmegachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104&amp;sessionId=8396756a6f83066cbb9ba87e46db8a5694c9888b&amp;siteScreenName=PJMedia_com&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1666833583099502594\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Warren now claims that, after 53 years in ministry, he only recently discovered that the Bible allows women to be pastors. For the entire history of Christianity (until a few decades ago), theologians and scholars almost universally agreed that the office of pastor was reserved for men, but Warren now knows \u2014 with certainty! \u2014 that they\u2019re wrong and he\u2019s right. Not surprisingly, he apologized to women and begged their forgiveness.<\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-4\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-4&amp;features=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%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1667620086251925505&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fcolumns%2Fpaula-bolyard%2F2023%2F06%2F12%2Fmegachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104&amp;sessionId=8396756a6f83066cbb9ba87e46db8a5694c9888b&amp;siteScreenName=PJMedia_com&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1667620086251925505\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(We\u2019re keeping an eye out for tweets from the Apostle Paul apologizing for his complementarianism. We\u2019ll report back if we see any.)<\/p>\n<p>One Twitter user pointed out the obvious \u2014 that Warren is the one who changed, not the SBC.<\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-5\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-5&amp;features=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%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1668002127967584256&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fcolumns%2Fpaula-bolyard%2F2023%2F06%2F12%2Fmegachurch-pastor-rick-warren-goes-scorched-earth-in-effort-to-push-southern-baptists-down-the-slippery-woke-slope-n1701104&amp;sessionId=8396756a6f83066cbb9ba87e46db8a5694c9888b&amp;siteScreenName=PJMedia_com&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=aaf4084522e3a%3A1674595607486&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1668002127967584256\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>It seems the best thing would be for Warren and his 87 trillion (or whatever) members to leave the SBC and start his own watered-down, woke, unbeliever-sensitive denomination and leave the SBC alone. His view is a minority in the SBC, but he somehow feels the need to make it to conform to his new-and-improved doctrinal clarity on an issue no one was confused about until about 15 minutes ago.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Going woke is simply exchanging one religion for another. MEGACHURCH PASTOR RICK WARREN GOES SCORCHED EARTH IN EFFORT TO PUSH SOUTHERN BAPTISTS DOWN THE SLIPPERY WOKE SLOPE Southern Baptists are meeting in New Orleans for their annual convention this week. Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren, author of the bestselling book\u00a0The Purpose-Driven Life,\u00a0is waging war with the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=93552\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[92],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-93552","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-in-case-you-missed-it-o-the-day"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/93552","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=93552"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/93552\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":93553,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/93552\/revisions\/93553"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=93552"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=93552"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=93552"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}