{"id":96162,"date":"2023-09-20T22:31:13","date_gmt":"2023-09-21T03:31:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=96162"},"modified":"2023-09-20T22:31:13","modified_gmt":"2023-09-21T03:31:13","slug":"96162","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=96162","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.opb.org\/article\/2023\/09\/19\/measure-114-trial-opponents-say-gun-laws-case-about-individual-rights\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Opponents of Measure 114 gun laws say case is about \u201cindividual rights\u201d in trial opening<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">In opening statements Monday, lawyers for two people suing over Oregon\u2019s new gun laws said Ballot Measure 114\u2032s provisions are the \u201cmost significant threat to [the right to bear arms] Oregonians have faced in nearly 165 years.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">\u201cThis case is not about public health, public safety or public concern,\u201d plaintiffs\u2019 attorney Tony Aiello told Judge Robert Rascio. \u201cThis is about individual rights. This is about the individual right to self defense and the right to bear arms to secure that right.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Aiello said plaintiffs in the state trial plan to show that Measure 114, approved by voters last year, effectively limits Oregonians to owning only antique firearms. He said Measure 114 regulates firearms that were plentiful prior to 1859, the year Article I, Section 27 of the Oregon constitution \u2014 the section protecting the right to bear arms \u2014 was ratified.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">The new laws would ban high capacity magazines holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition, require a completed background check to buy or transfer a firearm and require a person to take training and receive a permit to purchase a firearm. Raschio, an Oregon Circuit Court judge based in Harney County, blocked the new laws from taking effect in December pending\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.opb.org\/article\/2023\/09\/18\/oregon-politics-gun-law-reform-regulation-measure-114-high-capacity-magazines\/\">this week\u2019s trial<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">In their opening statement, lawyers defending the new rules for the Oregon Department of Justice said the court must determine if large capacity magazines are considered \u201carms\u201d under the state constitution, and thus protected, a question they said had already been resolved by the Oregon State Court of Appeals.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">\u201cThe Court of Appeals rejected the idea that semiautomatic firearms are protected arms,\u201d attorney Anit Jindal said. \u201cIndeed, evidence at trial will confirm that large capacity magazines were not commonly used for self defense in 1859.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">In his opening statement in defense of Measure 114, Jindal said the new restrictions are a reasonable public safety response to the risk posed by large capacity magazines. They plan to call witnesses who will show how those magazines allow shooters to continue firing without reloading and have increased the lethality of mass shootings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">\u201cTaken together, the testimony of defendant\u2019s experts will demonstrate to the court, that large capacity magazines increase the number of firearms homicides and the frequency and fatality of mass shootings,\u201d Jindal said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">He added that they will also show that large capacity magazines are rarely used in self defense, that the permit-to-purchase system is a reasonable public safety measure and that time restrictions in that requirement are consistent with the history of the right to bear arms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">The first witness for Measure 114 opponents was Derek LeBlanc, a firearms instructor who also teaches self defense and consults on home security. He said he recommends his students get a firearm they can afford and that holds as many rounds as possible.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">\u201cI want as many rounds as I can carry inside the gun,\u201d LeBlanc said. \u201c\u201dI might not have the time to grab an extra magazine. It gives me the ability to be able to deal with that imminent threat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">On cross examination, LeBlanc was asked why he didn\u2019t carry 60- or 100-round magazines. As an example of when it might be appropriate for someone to carry a 100-round magazine, he cited the need to defend oneself during the Portland racial justice protests of 2020 when what he described as \u201cmobs of people\u201d were in the streets.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__interstital article-body--padding f_primary m-none\"><strong class=\"f_bold color_dgray\">Related:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.opb.org\/article\/2022\/10\/18\/oregon-measure-114-gun-laws-permits-safety-class-magazine-limits\/\">Measure 114 would tighten gun laws in Oregon<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"article-body--padding article-body-ad\">\n<div class=\"ad-container f_primary border articleBody\n\n      \"><\/p>\n<section>\n<div class=\"float_left color_dgray\">THANKS TO OUR SPONSOR:<\/div>\n<div class=\"float_right\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.opb.org\/sponsorship\/\">Become a Sponsor<\/a><\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div id=\"ad-id-articleBody-mobile-tablet-desktop\" class=\"ad float_clear\" data-google-query-id=\"CKC-gdbhuoEDFcySywEdSrsDnQ\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/4646630\/OPB_horizontal_placement_01_responsive_0__container__\"><iframe id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/4646630\/OPB_horizontal_placement_01_responsive_0\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"3rd party ad content\" role=\"region\" name=\"google_ads_iframe_\/4646630\/OPB_horizontal_placement_01_responsive_0\" width=\"728\" height=\"90\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" aria-label=\"Advertisement\" data-load-complete=\"true\" data-google-container-id=\"1\" data-gtm-yt-inspected-9=\"true\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Ashley Hlebinsky, a firearms historian, testified for the plaintiffs that there were points in early U.S. history during which civilians had more advanced firearms than the military. (The Oregon Court of Appeals has said that firearms which evolved from military ordnance are not protected under the state constitution.) Hlebinsky said the earliest rifles, long guns with grooves in the barrel causing projectiles to rotate in flight, were initially rebuffed by the military.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">\u201cIn terms of accuracy, distance, your long rifle would have been a superior firearm,\u201d she said. \u201cIn terms of the loading process and the speed of that, that\u2019s the only real downside to having the rifle.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Those rifles were also not sold to the public, she later testified.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Hlebinsky also testified that many of the firearms in common use today have historical analogues. She said there were many early firearms capable of firing multiple rounds without needing to be reloaded and several makes and models that held over 10 rounds or used magazine-style feeding devices.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Cross examining Hlebinsky, Special Assistant Attorney General Harry Wilson asked her about many of the firearms she mentioned and whether they existed in America in the late 18th Century or if they were available only in Europe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Hlebinsky said she did not know how prevalent many of the firearms she discussed were at the time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">\u201cHave you studied production numbers for any swathe of firearms prior to 1860,\u201d Wilson asked?<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Hlebinsky said that, save for a few specific makes and models, she has not studied production numbers. Several of the rifles she mentioned in her testimony which were available in the United States and colonies, she said, held fewer than 10 rounds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Clifford Asmussen and Joseph Arnold, the two men suing the state, also took the stand. They testified about what firearms they own, their magazine capacities, how they use their firearms, and if they have firm plans to purchase specific firearms in the future.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__interstital article-body--padding f_primary m-none\"><strong class=\"f_bold color_dgray\">Related:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.opb.org\/article\/2023\/07\/14\/oregon-measure-114-guns-federal-constitutionality-verdict\/\">Federal judge says Oregon\u2019s new gun rules don\u2019t violate US Constitution<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Both said they owned numerous firearms and high capacity magazines. Arnold, 52, testified that he planned to buy more in the future but said he did not have a specific firearm in mind or know when he planned to buy one. Asmussenm, 76, said he wasn\u2019t sure if he planned to buy more firearms but said that if a war broke out, he intended to defend the state using something with a large capacity magazine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.opb.org\/article\/2023\/07\/14\/oregon-measure-114-guns-federal-constitutionality-verdict\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Measure 114 has already been challenged in federal court<\/a>, and found valid. This summer, U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut issued a 122-page ruling finding the law was solid under the U.S. Constitution.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">Large capacity magazines \u201care not commonly used for self-defense, and are therefore not protected by the Second Amendment,\u201d Immergut wrote in her ruling. \u201cThe Second Amendment also allows governments to ensure that only law-abiding, responsible citizens keep and bear arms.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">A U.S. Supreme Court decision last year laid out a new standard for firearms restrictions in the country, finding that laws must be \u201cconsistent with this nation\u2019s historical tradition of firearm regulation.\u201d Specifically, laws must be rooted in analogous regulations that existed at the time the Second Amendment was ratified.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">The standard under the Oregon Constitution is much less stringent. In Oregon, the constitution \u201crequires that there be a reasonable regulation to protect public safety,\u201d said Jack Landau, a retired Oregon Supreme Court justice and a law professor at Willamette University and the University of Oregon.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article-body__text article-body--padding color_dgray m-none\">The state trial is scheduled to last six days, but on Monday attorneys for each side suggested they could finish much sooner.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Opponents of Measure 114 gun laws say case is about \u201cindividual rights\u201d in trial opening In opening statements Monday, lawyers for two people suing over Oregon\u2019s new gun laws said Ballot Measure 114\u2032s provisions are the \u201cmost significant threat to [the right to bear arms] Oregonians have faced in nearly 165 years.\u201d \u201cThis case is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=96162\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23,24,8,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-96162","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-courts","category-rights","category-rkba","category-safety"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96162","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=96162"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96162\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":96163,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96162\/revisions\/96163"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=96162"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=96162"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=96162"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}