{"id":96220,"date":"2023-09-22T20:42:16","date_gmt":"2023-09-23T01:42:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=96220"},"modified":"2023-09-22T20:42:16","modified_gmt":"2023-09-23T01:42:16","slug":"96220","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=96220","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oregonlive.com\/crime\/2023\/09\/harney-county-judge-calls-police-sheriffs-testimony-on-number-of-bullets-they-carry-highly-relevant-for-measure-114-trial.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Harney County judge calls police, sheriffs\u2019 testimony on number of rounds they carry \u2018highly relevant\u2019 for Measure 114 trial<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"V4XC6PUFUNBPPALNKOKMGJLRPY\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Although\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.oregonlive.com\/crime\/2023\/09\/measure-114-trial-state-objects-to-testimony-from-oregon-state-police-superintendent-on-number-of-bullets-troopers-carry.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">police are exempt from Measure 114\u2032s gun control restrictions<\/a>, Harney County Circuit Judge Robert S. Raschio ruled Wednesday that testimony from law enforcement about the number of rounds they use for self defense is relevant for his judgment on whether Oregon\u2019s gun control Measure 114 violates the state constitution.<\/p>\n<p id=\"HXZKE2DBCFBTDBCCV6LSZ77ZGU\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Raschio said he was partly swayed by a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/23987880-npas-amicus-memorandum-1-27-23\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cfriend of the court\u201d brief<\/a> that the National Police Association had filed with the Oregon Supreme Court in late January in support of the Harney County gun owners\u2019 challenge to the Oregon gun control measure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">The judge read a passage from the association\u2019s 50-page brief, to explain his ruling:<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_K3CJRUUIUZALLNDKFQSGCHX6HA\" class=\"ad-observer\">\u201cIt reads, \u2018Because police officers are defending themselves against the same criminals as citizens, their experience is highly relevant to the appropriate scope of self- defense. Over the years, police departments across the nation have abandoned service revolvers in favor of modern semi-automatic weapons with larger magazines. This is true even though police are often working together as a group, with even less need for higher capacity magazines than individual citizens attempting to defend themselves.\u2019\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_MMFRI5Z3YBEWNK5B2G7ZOYFWWM\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"55EUHWSGXNFS5PAT7S27NCSEKE\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Raschio said that he agrees that what police use for self defense is \u201chighly relevant,\u201d and will allow the testimony from Oregon State Police Supt. Casey Codding and two sheriffs from Union and Harney counties, who took the witness stand a day earlier, to be considered.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_55EUHWSGXNFS5PAT7S27NCSEKE\" class=\"ad-observer ad ad--in-article\" data-google-query-id=\"CIuIoe_Mv4EDFa4DigMdtg0HUg\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_344101295\/OR\/www.oregonlive.com\/crime_6__container__\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oregonlive.com\/measure-114\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Measure 114 <\/a>calls for a permit to buy a gun, bans the sale, transfer and manufacture of magazines holding more than 10 rounds and requires a completed criminal background check before any sale or transfer of a gun. Voters last November approved the measure with 50.7% of the vote, but it has been stalled since Raschio put it on hold just before it was set to take effect Dec. 8.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_6OAZEBQN6RH63ONUG4EROMCLHQ\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"HRPF4FRAABDM5EQ64V3PB3X4ZM\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">The issue before Raschio is whether the measure\u2019s regulations are lawful under Article 1, Sec. 27 of the Oregon Constitution, which establishes a right to bear arms.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_HRPF4FRAABDM5EQ64V3PB3X4ZM\" class=\"ad-observer\">Lawyers for the state defending the measure had strongly objected to the law enforcement testimony, calling it irrelevant since police officers and sheriffs are exempt from the measure\u2019s restriction on magazine capacity.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_5CGGNPJXFREAZPK5ZTWBIJJZZU\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"MG67E4IZVFBUNIA6LK36JXVCJ4\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">The head of the state police and the two rural county sheriffs each testified that they and their officers carry duty-issued handguns or rifles with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">State troopers, for example, carry a 17-round magazine and one round in the chamber of their 9mm handguns, and carry two additional 17-round magazines.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_2Q5RRMLUZ5ADTJJDMELAPNHZOE\" class=\"ad-observer\">The county sheriffs testified they prefer large-capacity magazines in their firearms when they encounter wolves, coyotes or even bears in their rural communities, and want their local residents to be able to carry large-capacity magazines in case they need to confront a suspect before a deputy arrives at a scene. Union County Sheriff Cody Bowen said it sometimes takes his deputies 15 to 20 minutes to respond to a 911 call.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_3UIBVA4CRZA3LFMEFXFNQFJDGY\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"KXAUVJWPEJEOJK4OXC3R7QMPOY\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">The gun owners completed their case Wednesday morning.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_KXAUVJWPEJEOJK4OXC3R7QMPOY\" class=\"ad-observer\">They also had called gunsmith Scott Springer, owner of Redmond\u2019s Springer Precision, who testified about the mechanics of gun magazines in pistols, rifles and shotguns.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_DKS3XEDCENGHNEJPGYSDKKG7OU\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"XF6FA63KGNDT5JV3Y65CI25QEI\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Through video exhibits, he demonstrated how easy it is to extend magazine capacity with a drill. In one video, he used a drill to remove so-called \u201cdimples\u201d in a magazine that limit the number of rounds that can be inserted into a pistol and turned a typical 10-round magazine into one that could hold 17 bullets. Altering the magazine could impact the function, Springer testified.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">The gun owners argue that the measure\u2019s language makes any magazine that \u201ccan be readily restored, changed or converted\u201d to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition unlawful.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_WCTTR55LTNATFOV2VZMI5AO5GE\" class=\"ad-observer\">Through Springer\u2019s testimony, the gun owners intended to show that an ordinary person with no training using regular household tools can easily alter magazines to hold more than 10 rounds.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_O454FUTOR5DXNF4FTVECOUVK3I\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"TYMKIXHF7JF7FAUVPNVIVIAGAM\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Attorney Tony L. Aiello Jr., who represents\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.oregonlive.com\/crime\/2023\/09\/trial-challenging-gun-control-measure-114-starts-in-southeastern-oregon.html\">the two Harney County gun owners who filed the suit\u00a0<\/a>challenging the voter-approved measure, has argued that the measure also would make unlawful many shotguns, which can hold more than 10 so-called mini-shells that each are about 1.75-inches long.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_TYMKIXHF7JF7FAUVPNVIVIAGAM\" class=\"ad-observer\">It would also restrict the \u201cvast majority\u201d of detachable magazines that typically come with what\u2019s called a \u201cremovable base plate\u201d and can accept a magazine extension to increase bullet capacity, he said.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"ad-observer\">Lawyers for the state have argued that large-capacity magazines are not a firearm but an accessory. But even if they were considered firearms, they were not in common use for self-defense at the founding of the state, the state\u2019s lawyers have argued.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_D4MWRUYO6NHLZKEU7JQER5L3DY\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"SAWXNFKZMVCWJEMDOOLHVBO2HA\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">The state began its case Wednesday afternoon, and another dispute over the relevance of a witness soon arose.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_SAWXNFKZMVCWJEMDOOLHVBO2HA\" class=\"ad-observer\">Joseph Paterno, a congregant of Portland\u2019s Augustana Lutheran Church and one of the signature-gatherers involved in the Lift Every Voice Oregon campaign, was called by the state to testify how the grass-roots initiative process led to Ballot Measure 114.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_EKAXXPU7TFBJFI2LOFXYLRXXC4\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"UWGUR472I5FXDFJYKLFSDDX4SI\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Aiello argued that Paterno\u2019s testimony is outside the scope of the judge\u2019s text-based examination of the gun control measure. He said the judge could consider the measure\u2019s preamble and what was written in the voter\u2019s pamphlet but not consider testimony from Paterno about recent mass shootings that motivated the initiative process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">\u201cI don\u2019t understand how any of this testimony goes to this court determining the facial constitutionality of the law,\u201d Aiello said.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_SKAQXBWZNZDLRI5GWN3R4LSPGM\" class=\"ad-observer\">Oregon Assistant Attorney General Brian Marshall countered that Paterno\u2019s testimony will be about the legislative history and show the measure\u2019s \u201cpublic safety purpose.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_ZB7QLT5OWJFDVGT7OBR2O4B4HM\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"JFTINAB7MBEMBPMR4XJ6ZSN2QU\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">\u201cThis measure would have never passed had he not led an effort to collect the signatures,\u201d which triggered the legislative process, Marshall said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Raschio said he found \u201cit surprising that this is the approach being taken,\u201d by the state. Without reviewing the case law, the judge said he considered the legislative history to be limited to the text of a measure, its preamble and the voter\u2019s pamphlet and considered Paterno\u2019s testimony to be \u201can expansion\u201d of that rule.<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_RMADYMWCZJGIDM72NC2JIKIP2U\" class=\"ad-observer\">\u201cI appreciate the work that he did. I appreciate citizen engagement. It\u2019s very important to our society,\u201d Raschio said.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_WEMU37EY45AA7FEAHSHAHHONXE\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"B2DTONCN4BFRTBT3HR2QZUIWVI\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">But he added, \u201cI\u2019m trying to understand how this testimony gets me any closer to understanding the text and context of Ballot Measure 114.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_B2DTONCN4BFRTBT3HR2QZUIWVI\" class=\"ad-observer\">Marshall said the citizen, volunteer-led initiative was in response to a particular set of events in the nation and is part of the legislative history that should be before the court.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Background\">\n<div class=\"InContent_Center_Padding\">\n<div id=\"InContent_Center_AXSMUAQKDZFUPK47YP2ROW2MQE\" class=\"ad-observer\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"A7V3FRX3RVEODDAUEFHKEWBLLI\" class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\">Raschio said he\u2019d review the case law and decide later, while allowing Paterno, who traveled to Burns from Portland, to answer the lawyers\u2019 questions. Paterno is expected to return to the stand Thursday morning.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Harney County judge calls police, sheriffs\u2019 testimony on number of rounds they carry \u2018highly relevant\u2019 for Measure 114 trial Although\u00a0police are exempt from Measure 114\u2032s gun control restrictions, Harney County Circuit Judge Robert S. 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