{"id":98719,"date":"2023-12-20T16:21:09","date_gmt":"2023-12-20T22:21:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=98719"},"modified":"2023-12-20T16:21:09","modified_gmt":"2023-12-20T22:21:09","slug":"98719","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=98719","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoland.com\/2023\/12\/new-mexico-anti-gun-group-investigated-for-breaking-gun-laws\/#axzz8MTOoQwv4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New Mexico Anti-Gun Group Investigated for Breaking Gun Laws<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ammoland.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Gun-Buyback-Destroyed-Guns-600x407.jpg\" alt=\"Does everybody feel safer now? (New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violence\/Facebook)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Does everyone feel safer now?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPictured are unwanted firearms from one household in Farmington, NM,\u201d New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violence\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NMPGVnow\/status\/1736238935175557462\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"d3c38007224a2759ac938e8fd773c65b\">\u201cXed\u201d Saturday<\/a>. \u201cOur gun buyback was cancelled by the City, but local residents asked us to show up anyway. So, we spent today dismantling guns house by house.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This was their \u201cafter action report\u201d for their \u201cGuns to Garden\u201d program, intending to destroy guns and turn them into tools, reported on\u00a0<em>AmmoLand<\/em>\u00a0on Dec. 6, with the title observing \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoland.com\/2023\/12\/new-mexico-gun-buyback-an-exercise-in-contradictions\/#axzz8MM6lHK9x\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"2c7a83829244e75537e558d823a1f48e\">New Mexico Gun \u2018Buyback\u2019 an Exercise in Contradictions<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-17\">\n<p id=\"div-gpt-ad-1671218810065-0\"><strong>\u201cWhat, no background checks?\u201d this correspondent asked at the time. \u00a0\u201cWill there be an FFL on the premises to record transfers?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-5\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-1681151398698-0\" data-google-query-id=\"CICS9-eBn4MDFdj5KAUdGDcFvA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/22702991301\/Ammoland\/AL_In-Content_1_0__container__\">\u201cThe @NMStatePolice should investigate a private party going door to door and sawing people\u2019s guns in half without doing a background check as required for a transfer in New Mexico,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Lord4NM\/status\/1736404360979231015\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"212ca639269e0af8782eb054b22b26c8\">State Representative Stefani Lord noted<\/a>\u00a0in response to the NMPGV post. \u00a0\u201cThe @FBI and @ATFHQ should also look into this since a private group does NOT have the ability to check NCIC to see if they are now in possession of a stolen firearm. So many crimes committed by this anti-gun group.\u00a0 @newmexicooag \u00a0needs to look into this offense.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cWe have been doing this for years,\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NMPGVnow\/status\/1736411684183400504\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"2b47afa5e4ac7eb3eec74bb6b92b1af7\">NMPGV shot back<\/a>. \u201cOften, police give people our phone number when they want to turn in an unwanted firearm. This doesn\u2019t violate any background check laws as there is no transfer of firearms.\u00a0 We simply dismantle them.\u00a0 All that is left is wood and metal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, you\u2019ve been breaking the law for years?\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RepBlock\/status\/1736463763619070199\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"56282eaeda092a8f8a2a6c02950e4a7b\">State Rep. John Block<\/a>\u00a0asked. He\u2019s got a point. How can you \u201cdismantle\u201d guns if you don\u2019t first take possession of them?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gun owners were quick to join in, pointing out the hypocrisy of gun-grabbers allegedly breaking gun laws they lobbied for and the delicious irony of the prohibitionists \u201choist with their own petard.\u201d And it turns out Lord\u2019s concerns were prescient.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-6\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-1681151438500-0\" data-google-query-id=\"CIGS9-eBn4MDFdj5KAUdGDcFvA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/22702991301\/Ammoland\/AL_In-Content_2_0__container__\">\n<div id=\"AmmolandDFPAdParallaxerCont_138458811826\">\n<div>\n<div>\u201cUPDATE: New Mexico Sheriff has opened an investigation into whether anti-gun group illegally purchased guns in violation of Universal Background Checks during a \u201cbuyback\u201d and failed to destroy these firearms in a legal manner,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GunOwners\/status\/1736884750592229761\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"bf5e663df63b63c2049bab0e3413eb5b\">Gun Owners of America commented<\/a>\u00a0when forwarding the NMPGV announcement. \u201cYOU CAN\u2019T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-0\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?creatorScreenName=dcodrea&amp;dnt=false&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-0&amp;features=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%3D%3D&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1736884750592229761&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ammoland.com%2F2023%2F12%2Fnew-mexico-anti-gun-group-investigated-for-breaking-gun-laws%2F&amp;sessionId=6af506f4b349753937f24659455d65ebc502aae2&amp;siteScreenName=ammoland&amp;theme=dark&amp;widgetsVersion=01917f4d1d4cb%3A1696883169554&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1736884750592229761\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cSan Juan sheriff probes advocacy group\u2019s gun buybacks in Farmington,\u201d the Santa Fe New Mexican<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.santafenewmexican.com\/news\/local_news\/san-juan-sheriff-probes-advocacy-groups-gun-buybacks-in-farmington\/article_dc51ecc2-9dd5-11ee-91b3-d378f935fd86.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"135793bab5e0aa0d0a2bac6fb9a0797f\">confirmed Monday<\/a>. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201c[Sheriff Shane] Ferrari doesn\u2019t believe the law includes an exception for the advocacy organization.\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cReviewing the law I do not see where they are exempt from having to undergo a background check and are required to like anyone else,\u201d<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/FerrariForSheriff\/posts\/pfbid02Gtng6UJwithcJoaD5617HGuAiiZhdptnUAJEsSW6WammXdDRTvgJngZJaXjH6MaUl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"7da5b5d5937cdf0008c948fbf9aeeae7\">Ferrari wrote on Facebook<\/a>. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cI\u2019m awaiting the District Attorney and the Attorney General\u2019s opinion on whether \u2018New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violences\u2019 gun buyback program is operating lawfully and if law enforcement participation is following proper disposition of abandoned\/ unclaimed property. I\u2019ll let you know.\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;\"><strong>\u201cThis is not an investigation into the City of Farmington,\u201d Ferrari noted, confirming the NMPGV admission that the city had cancelled the buyback.\u2019 \u201cThe City of Farmington listened to their citizens\u2019 concerns and cancelled the event until they had more information and conversation with the community.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>What it will be, though, is an investigation of another key reality: That the nine guns collected (illegally transferred?) were not properly destroyed.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.kob.com\/new-mexico\/san-juan-county-sheriffs-office-investigates-gun-buyback-event\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"d1277da9408f06285b5b9292f00bc092\">Per KOB 4<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ferrari says the group isn\u2019t destroying the guns per<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.atf.gov\/firearms\/how-properly-destroy-firearms\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"76e47554e44255593c8351779347f91a\">ATF\u2019s guidelines<\/a>. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cThe picture they show [on X] shows a pile of guns that have been cut in half. Well, ATF doesn\u2019t consider those guns destroyed. They can still consider that a firearm,\u201d Ferrari said<\/span>.<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>That makes fair a few more questions:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Have investigators taken the guns into custody yet? Are they still in the same condition as in the photo or have then been \u201clegally\u201d destroyed since it was taken? If so, by whom and when? If done after an investigation was announced and before being surrendered, would that constitute willful destruction of evidence?<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-7\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-1681151478485-0\" data-google-query-id=\"CIKS9-eBn4MDFdj5KAUdGDcFvA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/22702991301\/Ammoland\/AL_In-Content_3_0__container__\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The city had issued\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/FarmingtonPoliceDepartmentNM\/posts\/pfbid038DSMH9qXSHi7jjFJLErr4cikefNbsScJKPBEZK2UfCeEHfAXwS6T2vPkWMcVWmwUl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"1d7dc187db8864eb762fa170120b4303\">a media release<\/a>\u00a0announcing they were dropping out on Dec. 6, two days before the scheduled \u201cbuyback\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 12pt;\">City Suspends Plans for Gun Buyback Program<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 12pt;\">City Manager Rob Mayes has announced the suspension of plans to partner in a gun buyback program on Saturday, December 8, in the Farmington Police Department parking lot. Mayes stated, \u201cBased on questions received from the public, Chief Hebbe and I determined it was apparent the program had not received enough advance education and community collaboration prior to scheduling this event.\u201d He added, \u201cWe will continue to explore educational opportunities and options to assist the public with safely discarding unwanted firearms.\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>And that ties into that earlier report from\u00a0<em>AmmoLand<\/em>, which noted Farmington Police Chief Steve Hebbe\u2019s curious admission: \u201cOur role really is just to check the weapons, make sure that they\u2019re not loaded, and I think sometimes inadvertently, that still does happen, because sometimes the people turning in guns aren\u2019t really familiar with guns.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, wait,\u201d I wrote. \u201cHe\u2019s acknowledging in advance that he and his department are knowingly creating conditions to tempt people who may not know the first thing about guns to handle and then transport them? If they don\u2019t know if it\u2019s loaded, what\u00a0other rules\u00a0are they oblivious to, and what\u2019s the chief\u2019s rationale to decide that doesn\u2019t that endanger them and everyone around them?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;\"><strong>\u201cAnd if someone gets hurt or worse due to this deliberately indifferent incentivized ignorance, have they run the chief\u2019s admission by their respective legal departments to consider against the familiar civil complaint words \u2018knew or should have known\u2019?\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I included that concern in my\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dcodrea\/status\/1732519316203946413\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uri=\"2099a66a02e2042712763991c4e136e6\">Dec. 6 X post<\/a>\u00a0publicizing the article a few hours before the city backed out, including a link to the article and notifying both the city and the police department.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;\"><strong>\u201cI wonder if the city attorney is willing to expose @CityofFmtnNM \u00a0to unsafe gun handling liability the @FPDNM \u00a0chief publicly confessed to,\u201d the post stated. \u201cWhy not ask?\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We\u2019ll see what excuses the various agencies come up with to show that ignorance of the law can be\u00a0an excuse if you\u2019re a gun-grabbing Democrat, as we watch NMPGV co-founder Miranda Viscoli turn more and more belligerently defensive about getting caught with gun-grabber egg on her face. But here\u2019s the thing: Those of us opposed to infringements of the right of the people to keep and bear arms aren\u2019t so much interested in seeing her and her cronies get frog marched into a holding cell (even though that\u2019s exactly what they\u2019d like see happen to us) as we are in working toward the day when each of us is free to go door to door, without any prior restraints, and ask homeowners if they have any unwanted guns they\u2019d like to sell us.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>New Mexico Anti-Gun Group Investigated for Breaking Gun Laws Does everyone feel safer now? \u201cPictured are unwanted firearms from one household in Farmington, NM,\u201d New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violence\u00a0\u201cXed\u201d Saturday. \u201cOur gun buyback was cancelled by the City, but local residents asked us to show up anyway. So, we spent today dismantling guns house &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=98719\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[39,11,80],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-98719","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bureaucraps","category-crap-for-brains","category-you-cant-make-this-up"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98719","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=98719"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98719\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":98720,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98719\/revisions\/98720"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=98719"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=98719"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=98719"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}