{"id":98907,"date":"2023-12-29T11:42:52","date_gmt":"2023-12-29T17:42:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=98907"},"modified":"2023-12-29T11:42:52","modified_gmt":"2023-12-29T17:42:52","slug":"98907","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesfortis.com\/?p=98907","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"

Honolulu Has Cut Off Gun Sales<\/a><\/p>\n

Gun sales have been blocked for much of December in Hawaii\u2019s largest city.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s what the Hawaii Firearms Coalition, a local gun-rights group, claimed in a statement on Wednesday. It said the Honolulu Police Department (HPD) has advised gun purchase or carry permit applicants they won\u2019t process them without a currently-unattainable training certification. And it\u2019s unclear when those permits might become available again.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt has been brought to our attention from multiple sources that the Honolulu Police Department, under the guidance of Police Chief Logan, is no longer processing ANY firearms permit applications or concealed carry applications until after the new year, and he has the ability to verify or certify instructors,\u201d the group posted on social media. \u201cThe department requires all applications submitted after December 18th to provide proof of instruction by a certified\/verified instructor before processing their application.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe problem?????? He hasn\u2019t certified or verified any instructors.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Honolulu Police Department did not return multiple calls seeking comment on the situation.<\/p>\n

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The move comes as Hawaii grapples with the fallout of the Supreme Court\u2019s 2022 New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen decision, which effectively struck down the state\u2019s old gun-carry law and cast doubt on its other gun restrictions. The shutdown of gun license processing is the result of the state\u2019s Bruen-response law. That legislation imposed a slew of new \u201cgun-free zones\u201d and tightened the application requirements for gun licenses.<\/p>\n

Alan Beck, a gun-rights lawyer who practices in Hawaii, said the training certification issue is affecting Honolulu as well as other cities and counties throughout the state.<\/p>\n

\u201cBasically, all the current instructors have to go get recertified,\u2019 Beck told The Reload, \u201cbut you don\u2019t have a system to go get recertified.\u201d<\/p>\n

In an email to Beck, which was shared with The Reload, Honolulu Deputy Corporation Counsel Daniel M. Gluck confirmed the permits are not currently being issued. However, he said HPD is still accepting applications. He said the licenses will be issued once applicants can obtain training under the yet-to-be-created standards.<\/p>\n

\u201cApplicants for permits are being told that \u2013 because we\u2019re less than 14 days from the change in the law on January 1 (meaning HPD legally cannot issue permits before January 1) \u2013 applicants will have to provide proof of training under the new statute (i.e., a handgun safety class within 4 years) when they come to pick up their permits,\u201d Gluck told Beck. \u201cApplicants are free to wait to submit their permit applications until they\u2019ve finished the training, but they\u2019re also welcome to submit their applications now (and just show proof of training when they come back to pick up the permit).\u201d<\/p>\n

He similarly noted HPD is currently accepting applications from firearms safety instructors for certification under the upcoming rules. He argued the new rules will be similar to the old, which should speed up the process.<\/p>\n

\u201cApplicants for permits are being told that \u2013 because we\u2019re less than 14 days from the change in the law on January 1 (meaning HPD legally cannot issue permits before January 1) \u2013 applicants will have to provide proof of training under the new statute (i.e., a handgun safety class within 4 years) when they come to pick up their permits,\u201d Gluck said. \u201cApplicants are free to wait to submit their permit applications until they\u2019ve finished the training, but they\u2019re also welcome to submit their applications now (and just show proof of training when they come back to pick up the permit).\u201d<\/p>\n

Gluck said the city was aware of the delays that could result from the recertification process and said it wants \u201cto start the verification process as early as possible so we don\u2019t delay any permit applications.\u201d But he also noted the HPD has 40 days to process gun purchase or carry permits under the new law.<\/p>\n

However, Beck noted the new rules couldn\u2019t go into place until at least ten days after the hearing scheduled for January 9th, 2024. He said those looking to buy guns or obtain carry permits would have to complete classes after the trainers are recertified, which would cause a further delay. The Hawaii Firearms Coalition said the city\u2019s excuse represented \u201ca gross abuse of the law\u201d and was being used as \u201ca scapegoat for this lack of competency.\u201d<\/p>\n

The Hawaiian gun-rights group warned the problem extends to the entire state and could last months. It called on law enforcement to advocate for a stay on implementing the new law while it works through the issues.<\/p>\n

\u201cAll the other counties are in the same boat; realistically, the Chiefs should be pressuring the AG to suspend enforcement of the law for a few months until the process is in place,\u201d the group said in its post. \u201cBut what\u2019s more than likely is the countries will get sued for denying Hawaii\u2019s law-abiding citizens the right to bear arms.\u201d<\/p>\n

Beck said Hawaiian officials were well aware of the deadline to create a new training certification process but simply didn\u2019t act in time to avoid disruption to permit processing.<\/p>\n

\u201cThey\u2019ve known about it for a long time. Certainly, everyone has known that the counties we\u2019re going to have to do something by January 1 in terms of the certification process for the instructors,\u201d he said. \u201cI guess I shouldn\u2019t be surprised. But I am a little bit surprised that here we are with January 1 coming up in a few days, and they didn\u2019t do it despite having six months.\u201d<\/p>\n

The Hawaii Firearms Coalition also questioned the constitutionality of the new law as well as the sales ban created by its bungled implementation.<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd this leads to another question: was there such a thing as a \u2018permit to acquire\u2019 in 1776? Or was that something new they created in the 21st century?\u201d the group said.<\/p>\n

Beck, who has already filed suit against the \u201cgun-free zones\u201d created by the new law, said the current cutoff of sales is hurting prospective gun buyers and licensed gun dealers alike.<\/p>\n

\u201cThere are probably tens of thousands of dollars worth of lost sales happening every day,\u201d he said. \u201cIn Honolulu alone, there are 117 registered FFLs.\u201d<\/p>\n

He told The Reload he\u2019s currently considering filing suit over the inoperative purchase permit system, especially if Hawaiian officials don\u2019t right the ship quickly.<\/p>\n

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